Curse

tnel28 · Mar 05, 2008, 12:41 AM // 00:41

so i have a lvl 10 mo/me. im using him 2 55, but in order 2 be a 55 i gotta get 2 lvl 20. i soloed my way up 2 10 and i decided 2 try my VERY 1ST TIME monking at the ruins of surmia mish in prphecies. i told them all b4 we left that this was my 1st time, i had a rez sig that rezzed ONCE, and i only had a few healign and prot spells. they said it was ok. the group consisited of me, a lvl 8 ranger,necro, and u guessed it the ultimate noob class W/Mo. all lvl 8 btw. so i said iv done it b4 and i culd probably lead. were half way thru the mish, no1 has gone underneath 50 percent health and im feeling pretty good about myself. all of the sudden the noob w/mo takes off while im collecting my pity charr armor and 7 gold lol. he charges off so far that his name turns gray. i thot he might be alright till we get there since he should have mending which evry lvl 8 w/mo should have. he starts taking dmage quick with no heal or regen and then he dies. i rez him and jokingly tell him thats what happens when u leeroy. (had 2 tell him what leeroy ment and the story behund it so i knew he was either really young or he is on a trial account and such a noob) i rez him and he does it again. leaves while were collecting our loot and dies. no1 else on my team bothered 2 bring a rez so i said o well. he staerts flipping on me telling me IM the noob. i was so pissed. i stopped healing 2 say something, my team dies and he puts the whole failed mish on me. i was so pissed and now were really getting in2 it. me calling him a noob and that the secondary class is there for a reason. he says he has 6 lvl 20's (all PVP we all know it). and then he leaves. i was so pissed and i now refuse 2 ever be a healing monk in PVE PUGS anymore. dont u just hate noobs like that. I am so pissed right now lol!!!

[DE] · Mar 05, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45

And the reason for this rant is...?

Stormlord Alex · Mar 05, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53

1) Grow a thicker skin.

2) Please don't encourage W/Mo to use Healing Prayers. It's bad.

3) Proper spelling, punctuation, and capitalisation are your friends. If you're feeling pretty 'out there' you might even want to try paragraphs. You know, just for fun?

Div · Mar 05, 2008, 12:56 AM // 00:56

Moved to lyssa's fiction. Good story, but no one really cares about it in Campfire. If mods there don't like it, feel free to close

Kyomi Tachibana · Mar 05, 2008, 12:56 AM // 00:56

Wlecome to the internet, it's pretty much full of asses, but there is the occasional good PuG, I mean, it's how I meant my guild.

Nightmares Hammer · Mar 05, 2008, 12:59 AM // 00:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

1) Grow a thicker skin.

2) Please don't encourage W/Mo to use Healing Prayers. It's bad.

3) Proper spelling, punctuation, and capitalisation are your friends. If you're feeling pretty 'out there' you might even want to try paragraphs. You know, just for fun?

QFT

12 chars.

Albert Algorn · Mar 05, 2008, 01:41 AM // 01:41

Well, to some degree tnel28 has a point. Unfortunately there is a tendency for players to run off from their monk or even worse draw the monk in to danger while attempting to heal them. If this player was a self respecting Wamo he should have a weak self-heal of some sort.

There are good pugs out there and people that understand that monks (1) don't have unlimited energy and (2) can't heal someone on the other side of the map...

Remember Thunderhead Keep and the Monk Strike?

Songbringer · Mar 05, 2008, 02:09 AM // 02:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albert Algorn

Well, to some degree tnel28 has a point. Unfortunately there is a tendency for players to run off from their monk or even worse draw the monk in to danger while attempting to heal them. If this player was a self respecting Wamo he should have a weak self-heal of some sort.

There are good pugs out there and people that understand that monks (1) don't have unlimited energy and (2) can't heal someone on the other side of the map...

Remember Thunderhead Keep and the Monk Strike?

OMG the monk strike was for the win. I made a ranger and had it run there the name was I Despise Monks just to piss them off. Even though I also had a monk there and was switching between the 2 chars laughin my ass off.

Edit: Buy a hard res or don't bring a res at all. Ressing should be left up to other party members. It is a waste of a skill slot on a monk. If that helps you. Don't stop doing something because off one scrub ass hole

notLurker · Mar 05, 2008, 03:05 AM // 03:05

sorry for further de-railing this thread but what exactly caused the monks to strike?

to the OP, don't take this exprience seriously. For bad players, it's always the monks fault

tnel28 · Mar 05, 2008, 04:21 AM // 04:21

haha thanx 4 the support guys, noobs just piss me off so much. and as 4 spelling, trust me i can spell but it takes 2 long 2 go back and manually spell check, i miss microsoft word...

~ Dan ~ · Mar 05, 2008, 09:42 AM // 09:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnel28

and as 4 spelling, trust me i can spell but it takes 2 long 2 go back and manually spell check, i miss microsoft word...

It doesn't take much to hit enter when you reach the end of a paragraph.

tnel28 · Mar 05, 2008, 08:22 PM // 20:22

wow
sorry,
i
didnt
realize
that
paragraphs
and
spelling
was
important
to
GAMERS...

Tatile · Mar 05, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30

Not so much important to gamers Tnel28, but to those of us who pride ourselves on grammar. Improper grammar leads to the local A Level Philosophy class have a right giggle over how you are going to 'tackle, abolish and teach the truth about the accurate history of the bible'.

Besides, the is Lyssa's domain, a realm of fiction and fanatsy, don't insulte the other writers.

MagmaRed · Mar 05, 2008, 09:32 PM // 21:32

Whether you want to do it full time or not, I highly suggest you play your Monk as a Monk until you are able to 55. Learning how to Heal or Protect makes you better at the game. You learn what ALL classes do, what monsters do, and how to deal with it. A 55 who doesn't know what the monsters he will face are using, or how to deal with them takes longer to develop. Guilds will always appreciate a Monk that can do GvG, TA, HA, etc. with them, or help people in a quest/mission.

PUGs are bad a lot. Playing as a Monk, you will take a lot of blame, even when there is none to be given to you. If your attitude towards the game is like this, I wouldn't want to be on your team even if you were playing a W/Mo that used a good build (which is rare).

~ Dan ~ · Mar 05, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnel28

wow
sorry,
i
didnt
realize
that
paragraphs
and
spelling
was
important
to
GAMERS...

It's just the fact that it makes it easier to read, kk? Nobody wants to read a wall of bla.

mrmango · Mar 05, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10

Learning to spell helps too.

Jenn · Mar 05, 2008, 11:22 PM // 23:22

If you guys didn't focus on .. his horrible post (okay, his post was terrible to read, I admit), you'd realize there is some truth in it. Most people who play this game are retards! Some people have no concept of how to play in a team...

QQ
QQ
QQ

Melody Cross · Mar 05, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnel28

wow
Sorry. I didn't realize that paragraphs and spelling was important to GAMERS...

It should matter to you

Proper spelling and grammar help others read your thoughts, and better get your message across. Besides; wherever you originally submitted this thread, its in Lyssa's now. Constructive criticism is a pre-requisite.

However...your message does come across in the OP. I'd label this creative non-fiction attempt #1. It shows a realistic and frankly dark side of PuGs from a profession that has a tendency to be sat on by many. There are--let us speak frankly--players in this game who think if you are not dealing damage then you must not know how to play. I have seen this in game a couple of times when I PuGed (back in the dark ages, when heroes were a glimmer in Anet's eye and surviving THK was the how we cut the wheat from the chaff).

I remember one time when those words were typed to me almost verbatim. A warrior died in a group and said I knew nothing of how to play. I told him that I had been playing my monk for a pretty long time and that it was my main character. He then proceeded to laugh at me, and tell me how bad I must be to rely on others to deal damage for me. His exact words were ----ed, but they came across as "You must KNOW you suck if you expect everyone else in this game to drag you through all the missions." I asked if anyone else had brought a rez and--once it was confirmed that all the signets were burned--walked up to his corpse and Bambied him, typing in all chat: "Well, since YOU can't deal any damage right now, I guess that means we both suck!"

Was this a nice thing for me to do? Certainly not, and I loathe to share such a shameless expierience save to prove this point:

There are people in the world that are just plain idiots. Worse; THEY CAN VOTE AND BREED!

Now that is a reason to stick one's head in the sand...or endorse forced castration...

GGs

acerbity · Mar 06, 2008, 12:47 AM // 00:47

WHAT THE HELL!?
I cant believe the w/mo didnt have mending omfg what a noob

funbun · Mar 06, 2008, 01:09 AM // 01:09

Welcome to Monkdom. This is what I've been dealing with for near three years now. Being a monk requires a thick skin. If you just want a work horse (55 for farming) then go level up in Factions; it's much faster. If you are Prophecies only then you will need to stick it out.

Everything MagmaRed wrote is correct. You can learn a lot from being a healer. Being a healer or protector requires a lot of situational awareness (SA). That's why monks are great: they've got thick skins, they have a good sense of what is going on around them, and most importantly they know how to stay alive and out of trouble. These concepts will carry over to all characters you play. That's why I think everyone should play through one of the campaigns as a monk.

As for me, I can't stand playing melee characters because when you get in the heat of the moment you lose a bit of SA. Playing as a caster and ranged armored char seems to raise SA a bit because you look at the battlefield fro ma distance. I guess that's why warriors and assassins and dervish seem to go charging off into bad situations: the whole "I killed you good" mentality takes over and they jeopardize group safety.